2011-02-23 The New York Times, The Guardian, Le Monde, Der Spiegel and EL PAÍS debate WikiLeaks revelations: livetweeted #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

@wikileaks_world

english coverture of @el_pais @nytimes @guardian @lemondefr & @DerSPIEGEL #today to #discuss #jornalism & #wikileaks on #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 11:57:43. 

@wikileaks_world

Event starting at 17.30 GMT #wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo complete report on @wl_central

 

on 23 Feb 2011 11:58:57. 

@skdadl

Livetweet of discussion amng eds of “5 majors” who 1st pub’d WikiLeaks cables: #wldebatemadrid Begins 18:30 Madrid 2:30 EST. Please RT.

 

on 23 Feb 2011 17:02:51. 

@dontmentionit

RT @skdadl: Livetweet of discussion amng eds of “5 majors” who 1st pub’d WikiLeaks cables: #wldebatemadrid Begins 18:30 Madrid 2:30 EST. Please RT.

 

on 23 Feb 2011 17:02:53. 

@wikileaks_world

@el_pais @nytimes @guardian @lemondefr & @DerSPIEGEL – Live feed of the meeting in english on #wldebatemadrid #wikileaks by @wl_central

 

on 23 Feb 2011 17:15:56. 

@skdadl

Eds of Guardian Der Spiegel El Pais Le Monde and that NY paper on WikiLeaks in Madrid 2:30 EST: http://bit.ly/gRSEVD #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 17:18:21. 

@wikileaks_world

Live feed en ingles del encuentro en #wldebatemadrid – #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 17:18:58. 

@zachprague

RT @skdadl: Livetweet of discussion amng eds of “5 majors” who 1st pub’d WikiLeaks cables: #wldebatemadrid Begins 18:30 Madrid 2:30 EST. Please RT.

 

on 23 Feb 2011 17:19:26. 

@wikileaks_world

Auditorium is crowded. Subscriptors press & gen. public. Five seats on the stage and we ask where is El Espectador´s chair. #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 17:21:48. 

@skdadl

RT @wikileaks_world: english coverture of @el_pais @nytimes @guardian @lemondefr & @DerSPIEGEL #today to #discuss #jornalism & #wikileaks on #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 17:29:59. 

@skdadl

RT @wikileaks_world: @el_pais @nytimes @guardian @lemondefr & @DerSPIEGEL – Live feed of the meeting in english on #wldebatemadrid #wikileaks by @wl_central

 

on 23 Feb 2011 17:31:17. 

@skdadl

RT @wikileaks_world: Live feed en ingles del encuentro en #wldebatemadrid – #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 17:31:30. 

@wikileaks_world

@agoranews @el_pais Trend para #pconfuturo en ingles: #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 17:32:19. 

@wikileaks_world

Live video streaming on http://bit.ly/jODi0 #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 17:33:38. 

@skdadl

RT @wikileaks_world: Live video streaming on http://bit.ly/jODi0#wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 17:33:56. 

@wikileaks_world

Still unsure as to the method for Q & A. Lets hope something useful for jornalism comes out of this #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 17:35:02. 

@wikileaks_world

@jaime_estevez Feed en ingles del debate en #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 17:36:15. 

@wikileaks_world

@serdirecto Feed en ingles del debate en #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 17:37:07. 

@jaime_estevez

RT @wikileaks_world: @agoranews @el_pais Trend para #pconfuturo en ingles: #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 17:39:26. 

@dianapop

RT @wikileaks_world: @agoranews @el_pais Trend para #pconfuturo en ingles: #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 17:40:12. 

@wikileaks_world

Starting now 1844 local time. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 17:44:37. 

@wikileaks_world

Brief introduction. Related Wikileaks to the role media played in attempted coup in Spain exactly 30 yrs. ago #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 17:47:54. 

@wikileaks_world

Auditorium´s image of the meeting http://twitpic.com/42ytrv #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 17:48:48. 

@skdadl

EST peeps: Got my time wrong. Livetweet and livestream of 5 majors eds now: Live video streaming on http://bit.ly/jODi0 #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 17:49:24. 

@GeorgieBC

WLCentral: 2011-02-23 The NYTGuardianLe Monde Der Spiegel& EL PAÍS debate #Wikileaks #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid http://t.co/9asMSkv

 

on 23 Feb 2011 17:57:08. 

@wikileaks_world

@alopezmarin says thousands of people could not enter Reina Sofia´s Auditorium including him. #wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo #wikileaks

 

on 23 Feb 2011 17:57:36. 

@wl_central

WLCentral: 2011-02-23 The NYTGuardianLe Monde Der Spiegel & EL PAÍS debate #Wikileaks #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid http://t.co/9asMSkv

 

on 23 Feb 2011 17:58:31. 

@Franzys999

RT @wl_central: WLCentral: 2011-02-23 The NYTGuardianLe Monde Der Spiegel & EL PAÍS debate #Wikileaks #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid http://t.co/9asMSkv

 

on 23 Feb 2011 17:59:14. 

@wikileaks_world

RT @wl_central: WLCentral: 2011-02-23 The NYTGuardianLe Monde Der Spiegel & EL PAÍS debate #Wikileaks #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid http://t.co/9asMSkv

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:00:24. 

@skdadl

RT @wl_central: WLCentral: 2011-02-23 The NYTGuardianLe Monde Der Spiegel & EL PAÍS debate #Wikileaks #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid http://t.co/9asMSkv

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:01:42. 

@wikileaks_world

Great blow to the USwill not make an effort to change their actions only in the way they arcive their secrets #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:02:14. 

@MaisAngel

The New York Times The Guardian Le Monde Der Spiegel and EL PAÍS debate Wikileaks revelations: livetweeted #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:02:17. 

@wikileaks_world

Debate has started. Javier Moreno is introducing participants. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:02:56. 

@skdadl

RT @MaisAngel: The New York Times The Guardian Le Monde Der Spiegel and EL PAÍS debate Wikileaks revelations: livetweeted #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:03:06. 

@skdadl

RT @wikileaks_world: Debate has started. Javier Moreno is introducing participants. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:03:15. 

@wikileaks_world

Bill Keller is here let´s see if we can get to ask him a couple of questions… #wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:05:22. 

@wikileaks_world

Javier Moreno on introduction says #wikileaks has changed journalism and its ways forever. #wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:05:59. 

@ulazia

Empieza el debate The New York Times The Guardian Le Monde Der Spiegel y EL PAÍS sobre Wikileaks #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid.

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:07:43. 

@skdadl

RT @wikileaks_world: Bill Keller is here let´s see if we can get to ask him a couple of questions… #wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:08:00. 

@skdadl

RT @wikileaks_world: Javier Moreno on introduction says #wikileaks has changed journalism and its ways forever. #wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:08:18. 

@wikileaks_world

The five big people of today´s debate. http://twitpic.com/42yzt7#wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:08:20. 

@wikileaks_world

The tone is being set: What is the future of newspapers and press? How will they change democracy as a whole? #wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:09:03. 

@wikileaks_world

Javier Moreno asks If WL revolution on journalism will really enforce democracy. He proposes this discussion today. #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:10:15. 

@skdadl

Livestream of the 5 eds in Madrid here in Spanish: http://bit.ly/OzJUzLivetweet in English: #wldebatemadrid #WikiLeaks

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:12:21. 

@skdadl

RT @wikileaks_world: The tone is being set: What is the future of newspapers and press? How will they change democracy as a whole? #wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:13:05. 

@wikileaks_world

Bill Keller: Foreign countries dont do business with America because they love us they do it out of self interest. #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:13:43. 

@MarcelRosenbach

Bill Keller (NYT): “Sceptical that #WikiLeaks Changes The World As we Know it or has much Impact On Journalism” #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:15:02. 

@Staatsfeind_WL

Bill Keller (NYT): “Sceptical that #WikiLeaks Changes The World As we Know it or has much Impact On Journalism” #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:15:02. 

@wikileaks_world

Bill Keller on today´s meeting. He answered first question.http://twitpic.com/42z23n #wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:15:30. 

@dianapop

Links to #wldebatemadrid http://www.larepublica.pe/envivo/http://bit.ly/e5wuiX http://www.elpais.com/especial/debate-sobre-periodismo/

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:20:26. 

@MarcelRosenbach

Rusbridger (Guardian): Power of Organizations like WikiLeaks is to Challenge The Power of repressive countries #wldebatemadrid #pconfutoro

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:21:43. 

@Staatsfeind_WL

Rusbridger (Guardian): Power of Organizations like WikiLeaks is to Challenge The Power of repressive countries #wldebatemadrid #pconfutoro

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:21:43. 

@skdadl

RT @MarcelRosenbach: Rusbridger (Guardian): Power of Organizations like WikiLeaks is to Challenge The Power of repressive countries #wldebatemadrid #pconfutoro

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:22:22. 

@wikileaks_world

Alan Rusbridger: “WL is extranational it is beyond countries and states and it is built on freedom of press”. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:22:29. 

@wikileaks_world

Very sombre declarations the age difference between the leaders and the audience is very obvious. #wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:23:40. 

@MarcelRosenbach

Mascolo: Story is not over Documents are now part of public record #wldebatemadrid #pconfutoro

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:24:52. 

@Staatsfeind_WL

Mascolo: Story is not over Documents are now part of public record #wldebatemadrid #pconfutoro

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:24:52. 

@wikileaks_world

Georg Mascolo – diplomacy hasn´t colapsed with WL.Whole story isn´t over. Journalism isn´t used to manage the amount of docs #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:25:12. 

@wikileaks_world

Master students are in the background. Their participation is unclear seems like a show. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:25:14. 

@skdadl

RT @wikileaks_world: Alan Rusbridger: “WL is extranational it is beyond countries and states and it is built on freedom of press”. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:26:06. 

@skdadl

RT @wikileaks_world: Very sombre declarations the age difference between the leaders and the audience is very obvious. #wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:26:11. 

@skdadl

RT @MarcelRosenbach: Mascolo: Story is not over Documents are now part of public record #wldebatemadrid #pconfutoro

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:26:22. 

@wikileaks_world

Moreno believes WL suposes a reinvidication on immediate transparency in journalism. #wldebatemadrid #wikileaks #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:27:59. 

@dianapop

Also: http://bit.ly/hXoyBy #wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo #wikileaks

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:29:32. 

@MarcelRosenbach

Rusbridger: To date nobody has prooven that anybody was directly harmed by the publication #wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:31:50. 

@Staatsfeind_WL

Rusbridger: To date nobody has prooven that anybody was directly harmed by the publication #wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:31:50. 

@wikileaks_world

Rusbridger (Guardian): thanks to selective leaking media has has not harmed anyone. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:31:52. 

@wikileaks_world

RT @dianapop: Also: http://bit.ly/hXoyBy #wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo #wikileaks

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:32:02. 

@donrhycce

RT @wl_central: WLCentral: 2011-02-23 The NYTGuardianLe Monde Der Spiegel & EL PAÍS debate #Wikileaks #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid http://t.co/9asMSkv

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:32:11. 

@wikileaks_world

Debate moves on to Sylvie K. from Le Monde until now nothing new has been said #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:33:02. 

@skdadl

RT @wikileaks_world: Debate moves on to Sylvie K. from Le Monde until now nothing new has been said #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:33:17. 

@wikileaks_world

Kauffman thinks part of WL succes of publication is based on credibility and selection of media. Media put cables on context #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:33:53. 

@Staatsfeind_WL

Kauffmann: Big part of The success was that we selected documents and gave them context #wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:34:06. 

@MarcelRosenbach

Kauffmann: Big part of The success was that we selected documents and gave them context #wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:34:06. 

@TurboKitty

RT @wikileaks_world: Rusbridger (Guardian): thanks to selective leaking media has has not harmed anyone. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:34:57. 

@wikileaks_world

Bill Keller: NYT consulted the US gov. before publishing but in the end we did it according to our judgement. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:35:13. 

@wikileaks_world

Bill Keller´s microphone was cut for a while. He said maybe it was #Assange. Public laughs. #wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:35:42. 

@skdadl

@wikileaks_world Keller: “… in the end we did it according to our judgement” — just like the Raymond Davis story eh? #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:38:16. 

@wikileaks_world

Kauffman- Website readers understood better WL than ordinary readers. #wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:42:37. 

@wikileaks_world

Kauffman- French Minister asked help of US government to close french server which was hosting WL. #wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:43:54. 

@skdadl

RT @wikileaks_world: Kauffman- Website readers understood better WL than ordinary readers. #wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:44:12. 

@skdadl

RT @wikileaks_world: Kauffman- French Minister asked help of US government to close french server which was hosting WL. #wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:44:25. 

@skdadl

Tom Paine must be rolling in his grave if he can hear @nytkeller . #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:45:21. 

@wikileaks_world

Until now only anecdotes and chatting. No real issues raised. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:46:12. 

@Staatsfeind_WL

Over The Long Run politicians and journalists discovered that they overreacted to the publication of Cables #wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:48:33. 

@MarcelRosenbach

Over The Long Run politicians and journalists discovered that they overreacted to the publication of Cables #wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:48:33. 

@wikileaks_world

Mascolo (Der Spiegel): Secrets are needed by everyone. What is the ethos then? #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:48:39. 

@wikileaks_world

Mascolo- German journalists had great stories but thought irresponsable to publish.Governments and publishers over-reacted. #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:48:57. 

@skdadl

RT @wikileaks_world: Mascolo- German journalists had great stories but thought irresponsable to publish.Governments and publishers over-reacted. #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:49:18. 

@Staatsfeind_WL

Kauffman: More Newspapers will publish cables public is still very interested #wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:51:44. 

@MarcelRosenbach

Kauffman: More Newspapers will publish cables public is still very interested #wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:51:44. 

@wikileaks_world

Bill Keller (NYT): US reacted in a sober and mature fashion to the leaked cables. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:51:59. 

@skdadl

RT @MarcelRosenbach: Kauffman: More Newspapers will publish cables public is still very interested #wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:51:59. 

@MarcelRosenbach

RT @wikileaks_world: Bill Keller´s microphone was cut for a while. He said maybe it was #Assange. Public laughs. #wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:53:17. 

@Staatsfeind_WL

RT @wikileaks_world: Bill Keller´s microphone was cut for a while. He said maybe it was #Assange. Public laughs. #wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:53:17. 

@wikinews030

@wikileaks_world ??? what is this about? details? sounds interesting… #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:53:38. 

@skdadl

Prepare to be ill: MT @wikileaks_world Bill Keller (NYT): US reacted in a sober and mature fashion to the leaked cables. #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:54:01. 

@wikinews030

#wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo quite possible some pips (not necessarily journos) overreacted to cable publication but? a german journo who??

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:55:22. 

@wikinews030

#wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo and… don’t think the “some pips” are those pips having to do with the march date you know. (presserat)

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:56:23. 

@wikinews030

#wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo when taking a look at it (“we should illegally shoot this son of a bitch”) I’d say some pips there are still…

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:57:09. 

@wikinews030

#wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo …underreacting to the “overreactions” of this kind. for example.

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:57:44. 

@wikileaks_world

Keller is asked about B. Manning and he avoids the matter and starts talking about Assange and the Espionage Act #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:57:52. 

@EmaginaryFriend

RT @wikileaks_world: Keller is asked about B. Manning and he avoids the matter and starts talking about Assange and the Espionage Act #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:58:45. 

@wikinews030

#wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo but back to the other. INTERESTING NOT-OVERREACTIONS waiting in march (presserat.) “exklucive contracts” aha.

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:58:49. 

@skdadl

RT @wikileaks_world: Keller is asked about B. Manning and he avoids the matter and starts talking about Assange and the Espionage Act #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:59:00. 

@MarcelRosenbach

Rusbridger: #Assange was intermediary publisher – not source. Would Be ridiculous to prosecute him and not us #wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:59:49. 

@Staatsfeind_WL

Rusbridger: #Assange was intermediary publisher – not source. Would Be ridiculous to prosecute him and not us #wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 18:59:49. 

@skdadl

RT @MarcelRosenbach: Rusbridger: #Assange was intermediary publisher – not source. Would Be ridiculous to prosecute him and not us #wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:00:09. 

@wikileaks_world

(Rudbridger – Guardian) Prosecuting Assange is insane hypocrisy by US gov. talking about freedom of press. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:00:44. 

@skdadl

RT @wikileaks_world: (Rudbridger – Guardian) Prosecuting Assange is insane hypocrisy by US gov. talking about freedom of press. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:01:01. 

@antoniowills

RT @wikileaks_world: (Rudbridger – Guardian) Prosecuting Assange is insane hypocrisy by US gov. talking about freedom of press. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:01:06. 

@Staatsfeind_WL

Mascolo: For us #Assange was a Source He should Be protected under the first amendment #wldebatemadrid #WikiLeaks

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:02:01. 

@MarcelRosenbach

Mascolo: For us #Assange was a Source He should Be protected under the first amendment #wldebatemadrid #WikiLeaks

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:02:01. 

@WLsupporters

RT @MarcelRosenbach: Rusbridger: #Assange was intermediary publisher – not source. Would Be ridiculous to prosecute him and not us #wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:02:16. 

@skdadl

RT @MarcelRosenbach: Mascolo: For us #Assange was a Source He should Be protected under the first amendment #wldebatemadrid #WikiLeaks

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:02:52. 

@wikileaks_world

#wldebatemadrid kaufmann- we must give credict to #assange for revealing the docs. He must be protected.

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:03:21. 

@skdadl

RT @wikileaks_world: #wldebatemadrid kaufmann- we must give credict to #assange for revealing the docs. He must be protected.

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:03:34. 

@Staatsfeind_WL

Keller: In Addition of being a source #Assange became a subject we treated him as we would treat any other source #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:04:47. 

@MarcelRosenbach

Keller: In Addition of being a source #Assange became a subject we treated him as we would treat any other source #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:04:47. 

@wikileaks_world

ElPAis: Secrets in all organizations are legitimate if they don´t lie to their electorate. Very unclear idea. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:05:57. 

@skdadl

RT @wikileaks_world: ElPAis: Secrets in all organizations are legitimate if they don´t lie to their electorate. Very unclear idea. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:06:28. 

@wikileaks_world

Bill Keller: NYT has considered opening a drop-box for leaks. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:06:37. 

@wikileaks_world

Moreno asks public if publishers think in doing a leak sistem as WL did. Keller says not necessary #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:06:53. 

@Staatsfeind_WL

Keller: we have been looking into possibility in developing a Drop Box some questions open legally and journalistically #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:07:24. 

@MarcelRosenbach

Keller: we have been looking into possibility in developing a Drop Box some questions open legally and journalistically #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:07:24. 

@skdadl

RT @MarcelRosenbach: Keller: we have been looking into possibility in developing a Drop Box some questions open legally and journalistically #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:07:45. 

@Anon_Lobo

RT @MarcelRosenbach: Mascolo: For us #Assange was a Source He should Be protected under the first amendment #wldebatemadrid #WikiLeaks

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:08:45. 

@Obbiblanc

RT @wikileaks_world: Bill Keller: NYT has considered opening a drop-box for leaks. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:09:01. 

@MarcelRosenbach

Mascolo: Our Drop Box is open since 64 Years… #wldebatemadrid #WikiLeaks

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:09:02. 

@Staatsfeind_WL

Mascolo: Our Drop Box is open since 64 Years… #wldebatemadrid #WikiLeaks

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:09:02. 

@zahnmac

RT @Staatsfeind_WL: Keller: we have been looking into possibility in developing a Drop Box some questions open legally and journalistically #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:09:10. 

@skdadl

RT @MarcelRosenbach: Mascolo: Our Drop Box is open since 64 Years… #wldebatemadrid #WikiLeaks

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:09:47. 

@el_pais

RT @wikileaks_world: Bill Keller: NYT has considered opening a drop-box for leaks. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:10:11. 

@jaime_gg

RT @wikileaks_world: Bill Keller: NYT has considered opening a drop-box for leaks. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:10:43. 

@silviagalavis

RT @wikileaks_world: Bill Keller: NYT has considered opening a drop-box for leaks. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:11:41. 

@izayanam

RT @wikileaks_world: Bill Keller: NYT has considered opening a drop-box for leaks. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:11:48. 

@cesarmendoza_

RT @wikileaks_world: Bill Keller: NYT has considered opening a drop-box for leaks. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:11:49. 

@brbrebren

RT @wikileaks_world: Bill Keller: NYT has considered opening a drop-box for leaks. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:11:58. 

@wikileaks_world

Javier Moreno continues redundancy: “Arab revolution has a lot to do with technology and social networking”. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:13:09. 

@CeliaSomoza

RT @wikileaks_world: Bill Keller: NYT has considered opening a drop-box for leaks. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:13:31. 

@Juanjom

RT @wikileaks_world: Bill Keller: NYT has considered opening a drop-box for leaks. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:13:32. 

@skdadl

RT @MarcelRosenbach: Moreno: #WikiLeaks may not have been the spark but certainly helped the Revolution in Tunesia #wldebatemadrid #WikiLeaks

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:13:37. 

@bokonon07

RT @wikileaks_world: Bill Keller: NYT has considered opening a drop-box for leaks. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:13:58. 

@wikileaks_world

Le Monde believes social networking is not a key factor only makes process faster #wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:15:05. 

@zahnmac

RT @MarcelRosenbach: Mascolo: For us #Assange was a Source He should Be protected under the first amendment #wldebatemadrid #WikiLeaks

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:15:37. 

@ECRA

RT @wikileaks_world: Bill Keller: NYT has considered opening a drop-box for leaks. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:15:39. 

@gabygente

RT wikileaks_world Le Monde believes social networking is not a key factor only makes process faster #wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:15:57. 

@holger_stark

#pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid: shifting to Arabic revol. Kauffm.: Internet essential for development. Keller: Facebook is Samizdat on steroids

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:17:53. 

@pfrunner

RT @wikileaks_world: Bill Keller: NYT has considered opening a drop-box for leaks. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:18:59. 

@MarcelRosenbach

Keller and Kauffman comparing Sit. In arab world with fall of soviet empire. Keller: facebook is samizdat on steroids #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:19:01. 

@Staatsfeind_WL

Keller and Kauffman comparing Sit. In arab world with fall of soviet empire. Keller: facebook is samizdat on steroids #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:19:01. 

@skdadl

RT @MarcelRosenbach: Keller and Kauffman comparing Sit. In arab world with fall of soviet empire. Keller: facebook is samizdat on steroids #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:19:42. 

@wikileaks_world

#wldebatemadrid Mascolo – info tools are useful to popular organization but also were always used by govs to control society.

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:19:49. 

@wikileaks_world

Rudsbriger (Guardian): Battle between open and closed information will be the great battle of the century. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:20:05. 

@skdadl

@nytkeller : ever the commercializing vulgarian. #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:20:44. 

@wikinews030

wn030: #wikileaks may neither have been the spark nor was really helping much but certainly added and joined the rev in t #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:20:51. 

@EduBgoode

The dictatorships were afraid of journalism…now they r afraid of the internet…we should have both together. #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:22:43. 

@ACIDTOTAL

RT @wikileaks_world: Rudsbriger (Guardian): Battle between open and closed information will be the great battle of the century. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:24:32. 

@Staatsfeind_WL

Keller: Future of Journalism is mostly online; we are still in the experimentation phase in terms of business models #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:24:32. 

@MarcelRosenbach

Keller: Future of Journalism is mostly online; we are still in the experimentation phase in terms of business models #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:24:32. 

@J_revolucion

RT @wikileaks_world: Bill Keller: NYT has considered opening a drop-box for leaks. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:25:46. 

@samuelregueira

RT @EduBgoode: The dictatorships were afraid of journalism…now they r afraid of the internet…we should have both together. #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:26:05. 

@wikileaks_world

Rudsbridger (Guardian): Media must end the distinction between professional journalist and civilian journalist. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:26:25. 

@skdadl

RT @wikileaks_world: Rudsbridger (Guardian): Media must end the distinction between professional journalist and civilian journalist. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:26:59. 

@wikinews030

ÄTkeller hold on to business models and you’ll end up as a seller.stop talking about journalismthen. #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:27:25. 

@wikileaks_world

Rudsbridger: Media must find a new middle position between sources and audience to continue being relevant. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:27:29. 

@holger_stark

#pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid. Rusbridger: paywalls in the internet are not the future of journalism.

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:28:42. 

@wikinews030

start talking about raw materials dear journos in #wldebatemadrid – OR follow “BIZtopic” longer and wonder later what PRESSERAT decided.

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:28:43. 

@ElenaPosadaSan

RT @wikileaks_world: Bill Keller: NYT has considered opening a drop-box for leaks. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:28:47. 

@skdadl

RT @holger_stark: #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid. Rusbridger: paywalls in the internet are not the future of journalism.

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:29:10. 

@wikileaks_world

They have started talking about business instead of the issue at hand. Business models how to sell more papers. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:29:19. 

@wikinews030

RT @wikileaks_world: Rudsbridger (Guardian): Media must end the distinction between professional journalist and civilian journalist. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:29:42. 

@skdadl

RT @wikileaks_world: They have started talking about business instead of the issue at hand. Business models how to sell more papers. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:30:01. 

@wikinews030

#pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid – exactly. and start to remember the disctinction between pure PR spam shit and journo work.

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:30:18. 

@wikileaks_world

Le monde – We have to get people to pay to our content online. Libya is free content because its a great story. #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:30:38. 

@MarcelRosenbach

Kauffman:We have to get people to pay for our content online;Readers have to understand that what we do costs a lot of money #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:31:41. 

@Staatsfeind_WL

Kauffman:We have to get people to pay for our content online;Readers have to understand that what we do costs a lot of money #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:31:41. 

@skdadl

Except for Moreno who we know has a profound understanding of them how many of these twerps actually read the cables? #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:32:09. 

@skdadl

RT @MarcelRosenbach: Kauffman:We have to get people to pay for our content online;Readers have to understand that what we do costs a lot of money #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:32:43. 

@holger_stark

#pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid. Mascolo: we gave free access for news away and it will be very hard to get it back in the Internet.

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:32:54. 

@jfowks

RT @holger_stark: #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid. Rusbridger: paywalls in the internet are not the future of journalism.

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:33:01. 

@wikileaks_world

Spiegel- I dont see any problem in finding smart ways of people paying for internet content. #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:34:02. 

@holger_stark

#pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid. Keller: iPad is very important invention. Change psychology what people are willing to pay for.

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:34:34. 

@MatildeIraola

RT @wikileaks_world: Bill Keller: NYT has considered opening a drop-box for leaks. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:35:06. 

@skdadl

RT @wikileaks_world: Spiegel- I dont see any problem in finding smart ways of people paying for internet content. #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:35:17. 

@skdadl

RT @holger_stark: #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid. Keller: iPad is very important invention. Change psychology what people are willing to pay for.

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:35:24. 

@wikileaks_world

Now they are talking about accessibility on the IPAD and Apple products. We need a moderator urgently. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:35:33. 

@TurboKitty

RT @wikileaks_world: Now they are talking about accessibility on the IPAD and Apple products. We need a moderator urgently. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:36:09. 

@wikinews030

#pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid kindly asking the SPRINGER friend ipad PR freak to piss out of this channel -> SPIEGEL!!! märz presserat!!!!

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:36:27. 

@skdadl

RT @wikileaks_world: Now they are talking about accessibility on the IPAD and Apple products. We need a moderator urgently. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:36:43. 

@holger_stark

#pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid. Debate finished.

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:36:52. 

@DoctorAnnDroid

RT @wikileaks_world: Now they are talking about accessibility on the IPAD and Apple products. We need a moderator urgently. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:37:31. 

@wikileaks_world

No chance for journalists to address their own questions. Debate is over exalting payed internet. #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:37:42. 

@wikileaks_world

It´s over everybody leaves abruptly. NO QUESTIONS ADMITTED. A big disappointment.#wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:37:44. 

@skdadl

On the banality thermometer I’d say we measure from @nytkeller as Absolute Zero. #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:38:10. 

@skdadl

RT @wikileaks_world: It´s over everybody leaves abruptly. NO QUESTIONS ADMITTED. A big disappointment.#wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:38:28. 

@aiida02

RT @wikileaks_world: It´s over everybody leaves abruptly. NO QUESTIONS ADMITTED. A big disappointment.#wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:38:31. 

@skdadl

RT @wikileaks_world: No chance for journalists to address their own questions. Debate is over exalting payed internet. #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:38:39. 

@wikileaks_world

A detailed report will posted on www.wlcentral.org this night! #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:39:16. 

@DoctorAnnDroid

RT @wikileaks_world: No chance for journalists to address their own questions. Debate is over exalting payed internet. #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:39:30. 

@DoctorAnnDroid

RT @wikileaks_world: It´s over everybody leaves abruptly. NO QUESTIONS ADMITTED. A big disappointment.#wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:39:33. 

@skdadl

@wikileaks_world My qweschuns! You did not get to ask my qweschuns! I think this was excuse for expensive dinner. #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:40:35. 

@MarcelRosenbach

Discussion in Madrids Reina Sofia Museum ends thanks to our Great Hosts from @el_pais #wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:40:36. 

@Staatsfeind_WL

Discussion in Madrids Reina Sofia Museum ends thanks to our Great Hosts from @el_pais #wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:40:36. 

@skdadl

RT @wikileaks_world: A detailed report will posted on www.wlcentral.org this night! #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:41:07. 

@wikinews030

RT @wikileaks_world: No chance for journalists to address their own questions. Debate is over exalting payed internet. #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:41:21. 

@wikileaks_world

We will be outside for coffees if anyone is interested to chat! We have an Ipad on the hands! #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:41:30. 

@skdadl

RT @wikileaks_world: We will be outside for coffees if anyone is interested to chat! We have an Ipad on the hands! #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:42:18. 

@wikinews030

@wikileaks_world exxxxactly so what has #wldebatemadrid REALLY to do with #wikileaks? -> SPIEGEL waiting presserat WL turning 2 dealers

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:42:50. 

@wikinews030

@wikileaks_world so #wlquest in sight of #wldebatemadrid there are still some waiting questions aren’t they? WL3.7 pure shop or back2start

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:44:25. 

@Catadioptrico

RT @wikileaks_world: It´s over everybody leaves abruptly. NO QUESTIONS ADMITTED. A big disappointment.#wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:45:10. 

@check_mBloging

RT @Staatsfeind_WL: Rusbridger (Guardian): Power of Organizations like WikiLeaks is to Challenge The Power of repressive countries #wldebatemadrid #pconfutoro

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:48:14. 

@check_mBloging

RT @dianapop: Links to #wldebatemadridhttp://www.larepublica.pe/envivo/ http://bit.ly/e5wuiXhttp://www.elpais.com/especial/debate-sobre-periodismo/

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:48:24. 

@zahnmac

RT @wikileaks_world: Rudsbridger (Guardian): Media must end the distinction between professional journalist and civilian journalist. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:51:21. 

@check_mBloging

RT @MarcelRosenbach: Discussion in Madrids Reina Sofia Museum ends thanks to our Great Hosts from @el_pais #wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:51:24. 

@JoseDeUriarte

RT @MarcelRosenbach: Discussion in Madrids Reina Sofia Museum ends thanks to our Great Hosts from @el_pais #wldebatemadrid #pconfuturo

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:54:04. 

@soyDoppler

RT @wikileaks_world: Bill Keller: NYT has considered opening a drop-box for leaks. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 19:54:17. 

@merirocket

RT @wikileaks_world: Bill Keller: NYT has considered opening a drop-box for leaks. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 20:02:32. 

@skdadl

Whistleblowers: Using a drop box set up by @nytkeller (needs gov permit) is going to be abt as safe as talking to A. Lamo. #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 20:04:52. 

@GeorgieBC

A direct line to the Pentagon for Lamos? MT @skdadl Using a drop box set up by @nytkeller is going to be as safe as Lamo. #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 20:10:06. 

@check_mBloging

RT @wikileaks_world: Rudsbridger (Guardian): Media must end the distinction between professional journalist and civilian journalist. #pconfuturo #wldebatemadrid

 

on 23 Feb 2011 20:14:11.

2011-02-23 Live blog for #Libya #Feb17 from February 15 – 28

WEDNESDAY, February 23

11:30 PM Saadi Gaddafi told the Financial Times by telephone that his brother Saif al-Islam, was working on a new constitution and would make an announcement about it soon and “My father would stay as the big father who advises.” He also said as much as 85 per cent of the country was now “very calm and very safe. It is now 2pm in Tripoli and it is very calm and quiet – 50 or 60 per cent of the people are working normally,” and the Financial Times said he sounded “relaxed”. “The army is still very strong,” he said. “If we hear anything, we will send some battalions. When people see the army, they will be afraid.” Asked about all of the diplomats who have resigned this week he said, “I don’t care about these guys. My diplomacy is to be honest and tell the truth.” He blamed the revolution on “thousands” of al-Qaeda and people on “very powerful” drugs, such as amphetamines or ecstasy. “We have tonnes of the pills they were given.”

11:30 PM Reports continue of mercenaries headed to Libya from other African countries.

11:30 PM AFP reports that the African Union has finally condemned “the disproportionate use of force” against civilians in Libya and expressed regret at the loss of life there. AU Commission chief Jean Ping was following the situation in Libya “with great concern” and “condemns the disproportionate use of force against civilians and deeply deplores the many human lives lost so far, is in contact with the Libyan authorities and other actors, and will pursue his efforts for an end to the spilling of blood.” He also asked for “an immediate end of the repression and violence”, stressed “that only dialogue and consultation will enable the Libyans to find appropriate solutions to the challenges facing their country and to embark upon the necessary reforms,” and asked “all the actors concerned to favour dialogue in order to open new prospects for Libya in peace, security and democracy.”

The African Union, which Gaddafi helped create and is populated by dictators he has supported with Libyan money, has been silent all week as the Arab League and the UN have both issued statements condemning the violence in Libya. Calls to the international community to end the violence have also not been directed at the African Union whose authority might be thought to be responsible for its member states. Speculation that Gaddafi may seek refuge in Venezuela seems odd when states that he has bankrolled are so much closer.

10:40 PM Reuters reports that a plane sent by Gaddafi to bomb Benghazi on Wednesday crash landed after the crew bailed out of it rather than bomb the city. Italian Foreign Minister Franco Frattini said that as many as 1000 Libyans have been killed in the last week. “I would like the suspension of economic, commercial and financial relations with Libya until further notice,” President Nicolas Sarkozy of France said, and US President Barack Obama also said they would look at U.N. sanctions. Neither commented on how this would be of any assistance to the Libyan people.

10:00 PM “CONFIRMED: at least 2 tanks have pulled up in Tajurah seems they are put in strategic locations – earlier also confirmed 2 tanks in BayView area also in #tripoli Also we have reports that there are approximately 22-24 tanks dotted around different areas in #tripoli #libya this number is UNCONFIRMED” via @libyansrevolt

10:00 PM BREAKING: Soldiers in Derna massacred for not firing at Libyans (GRAPHIC) via libyafeb17

10:00 PM Mass burial in Tripoli via libyafeb17

9:30 PM Reports of 1500 (some reports of 300) young men found trapped in an underground prison in Benghazi, left without food or water from the 15th of February to the 22nd. Reportedly still all alive.

9:30 PM Protesters have taken control of Kufra.

8:30 PM From SultanAlQassemi “Next tweets will the be the names of the three army generals to keep an eye out for in #Libya for a possible military coup against Gaddafi. 1- Abu Bakr Younis Jaber, Chief of Libyan Army since the late 1970’s, long time Gaddafi ally, now rumoured to be under house arrest. 2- Lieutenant Abdel Fatah Younis El Obeidi, Minister of Public Security, rumoured to have joined the protests. Whereabouts unknown. 3- Al Mahdi Al Arabi, Deputy Chief of Staff, rumoured to be under house arrest, also rumoured to have lead a failed coup attempt.

Report of a plane supposedly carrying Aisha Gaddafi refused permission to land in Malta.

Report of a plane supposedly carrying Hannibal Gaddafi’s wife and several other Gaddafi family members refused permission to land in Lebanon.

9:00 AM Protesters in Tripoli.

9:00 AM Old Libyan flag raised over Tripoli.

9:00 AM Man saved by Quran.

9:00 AM Mother of Tunisian fruitseller Mohamed Bouazizi, the young man from Sidi Bouzid whose act of self-immolation triggered the Tunisian Uprising, speaks to Libyan mothers.

3:20 AM “Warfalla Cheif Libya’s most largest tribe said he backed the protesters & wud send his people 2 Tripoli to assist in the final battle” via @ShababLibya

3:00 AM “violence is still going on right now in #tripoli – few last pockets but cannot see it lasting too long” via @libyansrevolt

1:45 AM There are Gaddafi supporters and some police in about 50 cars going around Tripoli making a lot of noise and celebrating as if they won. Caller is not sure what they won. Caller thinks the regime has already fallen. He also thinks the supporters may still be some from African nations or tribes from the south or Iraq, not from Tripoli. They do not have enough manpower to harass people in the street. Caller estimates Gaddafi may have a couple thousand supporters left, mostly surrounding Gaddafi homes. He thinks there may have been defections, there are less than yesterday. “It’s hilarious. It’s very obvious Gaddafi has been defeated, and he has lost his mind.” Caller has heard people were given 17,000 dinars to participate in demonstrations, not fighting. A lot of people are still very afraid, some have been paid, and if even 1% of the population supports him, he will have a couple thousand supporters. Source.

1:30 AM Al Jabal Al Akhdar battalion joins protesters

1:30 AM Gaddafi’s speech via Times of Malta (and others):

  • ‘Cowards’ were trying to distort the truth and giving a wrong picture of what was happening in Libya. Libyans, he said, were being shown as being ‘bad people’.
  • The Libyan people should hold their heads high against the leaders of the world who were conspiring against them and wanted to tarnish the reputation of the people and the country.
  • He would not give up and would resist to the end of his life because this was his country, watered by the Libyan people’s blood.
  • The Libyan people would defy the tyranny of the United States and other countries.
  • “I am a warrior” fighting to give dignity to the country against a bunch of rats who were paid to disfigure the country.
  • “I am not going to leave this land, and I will die here as a martyr’.
  • The enemies knew that Col Gaddafi was not an ordinary person. His house had been bombed, his children had been killed. And the rats were with the United States.
  • But the Libyan people would not give up, Africa would not give up. Libya had defeated the colonialist Italy, the US and Britain, and would remain defiant.
  • Innocent people had been attacked in their homes and the streets by youths who had been manipulated and drugged. This was a small, paid group used by others who stayed at home.
  • He, as the head of the revolution, had liberated Benghazi and Tobruk, ousting the American and British bases. The current generation should remember the high price which their fathers had paid for Libyan liberation, and their honour would not be tarnished.
  • The administration of the country was in the hands of the people through their committees and congresses. He was calling on the people to administer the oil resources of the country through new municipal committees.
  • He was calling on the people to liberate and purify Benghazi and let it be run by its own people, not others. The young people in Benghazi should know that they had been duped and did not know what they were doing.
  • Tripoli was free and should be administered by its people.
  • The masses should take to the streets and form new committees and municipalities for local administration.
  • Those who sided with Gaddafi and the revolution should secure the streets and remember the evacuation of the Americans and the return of oil assets to the Libyan people, he added.
  • Since he was not president, since he had no position, he would not resign. But he had his gun and he would fight for Libya.
  • The people should not let their young get drunk and be misled. The gangs, like cockroaches, did not represent anyone, they were nothing, just a handful trying to imitate what had happened in Egypt and Tunisia after being drugged.
  • From tomorrow the police and the army would impose security. If these cockroaches were allowed to prevail, Libya would slide into darkness and lose its oil.
  • He had rebuilt Benghazi but they had destroyed it. They had also destroyed its airport. Other cities such as Derna had also been attacked.
  • But they had to be repulsed and the US should not be allowed to occupy Libya like Afghanistan. The enemy had to be chased and the terrorists had to be hanged. Anybody who took arms against Libya would be executed. Those who waged war against Libya would be put to death. Those who facilitated entry of the enemy into Libya or handed over Libyan cities would be executed.
  • Reading from the green book, all those who used force against the people would be punished by death. The same applied for those who took part in or instigated civil war.
  • He had not ordered anyone to start firing yet, because had he done so, everything would be set ablaze and Libya would end up like Somalia.
  • The millions of Libyans should restore order, take back their oil assets and do what they liked with it.
  • Rebellion in Waco in the US , the coup in the Soviet Union and in Tiananmen Square had been repulsed with tanks because unity was more important. Libya would also do whatever it takes not to allow part of the country (Benghazi and Derna) to be taken away.
  • Opponents should give up their weapons, their drugs and their ring leaders, and shops should reopen as normal.
  • It was unacceptable for the country to be torn apart or handed to the crazy people who did not know their history.

1:00 AM UN Security Council statement from Al Jazeera:

The members of the Security Council expressed grave concern at the situation in Libya. They condemned the violence and use of force against civilians, deplored the repression against peaceful demonstrators, and expressed deep regret at the deaths of hundreds of civilians. They called for an immediate end to the violence and for steps to address the legitimate demands of the population, including through national dialogue.

The members of the Security Council called on the Government of Libya to meet its responsibility to protect its population. They called upon the Libyan authorities to act with restraint, to respect human rights and international humanitarian law, and to allow immediate access for international human rights monitors and humanitarian agencies.

The members of the Security Council called for international humanitarian assistance to the people of Libya and expressed concern at the reports of shortages of medical supplies to treat the wounded. They strongly urged the Libyan authorities to ensure the safe passage of humanitarian and medical supplies and humanitarian workers into the country.

The members of the Security Council underlined the need for the government of Libya to respect the freedom of peaceful assembly and of expression, including freedom of the press. They called for the immediate lifting of restrictions on all forms of the media.

The members of the Security Council stressed the importance of accountability. They underscored the need to hold to account those responsible for attacks, including by forces under their control, on civilians.

The members of the Security Council expressed deep concern about the safety of foreign nationals in Libya. They urged the Libyan authorities and all relevant parties to ensure the safety of all foreign nationals and facilitate the departure of those wishing to leave the country. The members of the Security Council will continue to follow the situation closely.

1:00 AM “AJE: One Libyan Navy ship is in the waters off Malta. Italy scrambled 5 fighter jets to investigate intentions.” via @feb17voices

2011-02-23 #Mauritania protests #Feb25

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February 25 Update

Hundreds protesting turned into thousands today in the Mauritania capital Nouakchott, as people answered the call put out on facebook. Police removed the initial hundreds from Blocat Square and arrested one early on Saturday, only to have thousands return. The facebook page states the goal is to “achieve democracy and justice in our country.” Discrimination between the poor non-Arab population and the richer Arab citizens is an issue, as is the military rule from a prime Minister, Moulaye Ould Mohamed Laghdaf, who came to power through a “coup d’etat”. In response to the threatened protests, the prime minister had promised that the government would soon create 17,000 jobs, develop new infrastructure projects and boost local food production capacity to tackle spikes in prices.

The protesters have promised to continue until their demands are met.

February 23

From the AnonNews site:

Aziz isn’t stronger than Ben Ali, Moubarak or Kadafi!

We are not weaker than the young people from Tunisia, Egypt or Libya.

Send text-messages to all your friends!

The 25th of Februari at 12:00 o’clock.

Place: The court blocks – NOUAKCHOTT

Objective: To overthrow Aziz.

Mohamed Ould Abdel Aziz is the ruthless dictator of Mauritania, who acquired power through a “coup d’etat” on the 6th of August 2008, and established himself as leader without any democratic measures taken.

Image credit: Facebook page.

2011-02-23 Mugabe seeks the death penalty for citizens watching video of #Tunisia and #Egypt, #Zimbabwe protest set for #Mar1

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Munyaradzi Gwisai, the International Socialist Organisation (ISO) general coordinator, and 45 others were charged in Zimbabwe today with treason, which carries the death penalty, or subverting a constitutionally elected government, for which the maximum penalty is 20 years imprisonment. The charges stem from a meeting the plaintiffs allegedly held, by invitation, and participants, although invited, were subjected to thorough vetting before being allowed into a room which was kept under lock and key. In this room they allegedly complained that “in Zimbabwe, there was a long authoritarian leadership , general hunger, poverty, unemployment and capitalist practices where wealth was enjoyed by a few individuals while the general populace of Zimbabwe was suffering.”

According to reports they had also watched videos of the protests in North Africa and discussed the implications of the wave of popular sentiment sweeping the region. The meeting was organized by Munyaradzi Gwisai, a lecturer at the University of Zimbabwe’s law school, and was aimed at enabling people without Internet access or cable TV to watch news reports about the uprisings in Tunisia and Egypt. Police confiscated a video projector, two DVD discs and a laptop. Alec Muchadehama, a human rights lawyer, said that Gwisai was one of seven of the detainees to be beaten with truncheons. “This is a message that ‘If you attempt anything, we’re going to arrest you, assault you, incarcerate you, lay false charges against you, deny you bail and occupy you with false trials,’That’s the message — ‘Don’t attempt this, it can’t be done here.'” Lawyers were not able to interview the detainees for almost 48 hours.

Muchadehama said Gwisai and the other participants were merely engaged in “an academic debate about what was happening in Tunisia and Egypt.” While some reports say the attendees were mainly students, Harare provincial police spokesperson Inspector James Sabau said they were from the Zimbabwe Congress of Trade Unions (ZCTU), the Zimbabwe National Students’ Union (Zinasu) and other unions.

“On February 19 it is said Gwisai invited people from ZCTU, students from Zinasu, Medical Professionals and Allied Workers’ Union and International Socialist Organisation to attend a meeting with a theme — ISO calls on workers, students and the working people to support the struggle in solidarity with Egyptian and Tunisian workers,” said Sabau. “The agenda of the meeting was the revolt in Egypt and Tunisia — what lessons can be learnt for the working class in Zimbabwe and Africa. Videos of the uprising in Egypt and revolts in Tunisia were being shown to the guests who attended as a way to motivate the people to subvert a constitutionally-elected government.” Sabau said police would not allow any plots to take Zimbabwe the Egypt way and would clamp down mercilessly on plotters of any revolts.

Human Rights Watch has issued the following statement: “The Zimbabwe authorities should immediately free the activists and drop these outrageous charges,” said Daniel Bekele, Africa director at Human Rights Watch. “Arresting people for watching a video on the historic events in the Middle East is a transparent pretext to block peaceful criticism of the government.”

Mugabe, the 87 year old president who has held power since 1980, has announced plans for an election this year and Human Rights Watch has documented a corresponding increase in brutality and intimidation particularly directed at anyone associated with the Movement for Democratic Change (MDC) party. Gwisai is a former MDC MP.

The MDC party has issued a statement calling for the immediate release of the 46 prisoners.

It is inconceivable for the police to assume that a mere 46 people can topple a government by simply viewing old video footage from Tunisia and Egypt. The video material is already in the public domain and can be accessed by anyone from anywhere in the world. The actions by the police are a clear sign that the guilty are always afraid.

We are concerned by the continued abuse of State machinery by Zanu PF to suppress the people’s views for narrow political gains by Zanu PF officials. We find it strange that the police can find the machinery and manpower to arrest innocent people when it is failing to do the same to Zanu PF hooligans who are fanning political violence in Mbare and in the rural areas.

Protests scheduled

Facebook page announces:
“Egypt style protests spread…….from Tunisia to Zimbabwe”

ZIMBABWE MILLION CITIZEN MARCH
“Power in numbers to remove dictatorship”

Events : MASS PROTESTS

Date:- Tuesday, 1 March, 2011
(no work, no school, no college…only protests)

Venue:- (Nationwide)
Central Event – HARARE GARDENS, HARARE

Time: – 11.00am ~ until Mugabe’s Resignation

Participants: – Everyone

*Bring everyone, text your friends, call your family *

**ORGANIZATIONS & GROUPS TO SELF ORGANIZE AND COME OUT IN LARGE NUMBERS**

The Zimbabwe Mail is reprinting an email today from the same group which includes the statements:

The protest is intended to demand the immediate cessation and an end to the dictatorial regime misruling Zimbabwe . In addition, the mass demonstrations countrywide will convey anger and concern about the suffering of Zimbabweans from brutal economic, military, political and social repression under the regime of Robert Mugabe, who has been in power since 1980.

Inspired by the revolution for democracy by the people of Tunisia and Egypt , Zimbabweans urge the pro democracy and freedom loving people across the globe to stand together and demand the immediate removal of Dictator Robert Mugabe and his cronies.
 
Zimbabweans will demand:

1) Robert Mugabe’s resignation, regime change.

2) An end to political violence and all repressive policies.

3) Recognition and respect of the rights of freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, and freedom of association and the press.

4) Recognition and respect of the legitimate role of Zimbabwe human rights defenders and civil society activists and organizations.

5) Freedom, Justice, Fair Elections, Progress and Development.

Another Facebook group is entitled simply Mugabe Must Go, while a third has been set up to stand in solidarity with Munyaradzi Gwisai, and his 45 fellow prisoners. According to this group, the charge of treason, which carries the death penalty, was just introduced today at the hearing.

Meanwhile, the prosecution had sprung new charges on the accused at the last minute – the lawyers for the accused weren’t even aware of them until they all got to court. The extra charge is Treason. The first charge of “Plotting to subvert the government through unconstitutional means” is now just the back-up charge.

Having had all the charges read out to them, at least 5 did not understand what they were being charged for, understandably. So the Magistrate ordered all the 52 to report back tomorrow (Thursday).

Image credit: the facebook profile of the march organizer.

 

2011-02-23 The United Arab Emirates chooses #Mar25 #UAE

http://twitter.com/#!/MessyLittleRain/status/40280331504467968

Facebook page and hashtags #UAE and#Mar25 announce a day of protest for the United Arab Emirates “a revolution against the era of the Senate – a revolution against oppression and suppression of freedoms in the United Arab Emirates – a revolution against the wealth looted from the people of the UAE.” There are currently 2,598 members on Facebook. On Twitter it is going over with about as much enthusiasm as the announced Qatar protest.

 

2011-02-22 Live blog for #Libya #Feb17 from February 15 – 28

TUESDAY, February 22

Tripoli at night

10:30 PM From Al Jazeera:

  • Abdul-Fatah Younis, the interior minister and an army general, announced his renunciation of his post and support for the “February 17 revolution” and urged the Libyan army to “join the people and respond to their legitimate demands”.
  • Amr Moussa, the Arab League chief, had decided to discontinue the participation of the Libya delegation in the meetings of the council and all its institutions.
  • Ali al-Essawi, who resigned as Libyan ambassador to India, said fighter jets had been used by the government to bomb civilians, live fire was being used against protesters, and that foreigners had been hired to fight on behalf of the government. He called the violence “a massacre”, and urged the UN to block Libyan airspace in order to “protect the people”.
  • Ibrahim Dabbashi, Libya’s deputy ambassador to the United Nations, accused Gaddafi of launching a “genocide against the Libyan people”.
  • A group of Libyan army officers have issued a statement urging fellow soldiers to “join the people” and help remove Muammar Gaddafi.
  • Ali Aujali, the Libyan ambassador to the United States, called for the Gaddafi’s resignation, saying he must step down and give Libyans a chance “to make their future”.
  • A.H. Elimam, Libya’s ambassador to Bangladesh, resigned to protest against the killing of his family members by government soldiers.
  • The deputy chief and other staff at Libya’s mission to the United Nations sided with the revolt against their country’s leader and called on the Libyan army to help overthrow “the tyrant Muammar Gaddafi.” They said they were serving the Libyan people, demanded “the removal of the regime immediately” and urged other Libyan embassies to follow suit.
  • The Libyan ambassasador to Australia, Musbah Allafi, cut its ties with Gaddafi
  • The embassy in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, cut ties with Gaddafi’s government, with ambassador Bubaker al-Mansori telling AFP: “We are not loyal to him, we are loyal to the Libyan people.”

10:10 PM “BREAKING: Libyan ministor of interior has announced he has joined the CITIZENS REVOLUTION BREAKING CONFIRMED” via @ShababiLibya

10:00 PM Human Rights Watch reports: Statements from doctors working in two Tripoli hospitals obtained by Human Rights Watch by email confirmed that at least 62 people have been killed since February 20 but these are figures from only two hospitals. Other witnesses told Human Rights Watch there were at least 50 bodies in the morgue at Abu Salim Hospital, all casualties of clashes over the weekend. A doctor said that Tripoli’s Central Hospital had received 12 dead, brought in by emergency services from the area around Green Square, the site of anti-government protests on February 21.

9:30 PM Very interesting map from the Globe and Mail showing where Gaddafi money has been used to prop up other fragile governments in the already unrestful central Africa. Eyes on Mali, Liberia, Niger, Chad, Central African Republic, Sudan, Ethiopia, and Somalia.

8:00 PM “he threatened to cleanse Libya house by house.. we have excess youth gaddafi, all ready to die for our homeland” via @ShababiLibya

8:00 PM “We are all a bit upset tonight, not because we feel defeated, but because we know gaddafi, he will try to kill anyone and everyone ” via @ShababiLibya

8:00 PM “Situation in tripoli we hear helicopters overheard no firing just yet, benghazi is free”via @ShababiLibya

7:00 PM “BREAKING: Helicopters circling Tripoli now. Gaddafi’s soldiers are armed with machine guns with ammo.” via @ShababiLibya

7:00 PM Muammar Gaddafi gave a speech on state TV in which he threatened the Libyan people for an hour and a half, alluding favourably to Tiananmen Square and threatening to cleanse Libya of protesters house by house. Will have more soon.

6:00 PM “Gaddafi speech: ‘I have no intentions to step down like others have I want to die here as a martyr libya is the tree, and we have watered this tree with our blood’ He orders the police and army to crush the uprising, let me translate, he orders for the crush of a nation i think he is going to cause a huge massacre and then lose the country..” via @ShababiLibya

6:00 PM “@AJArabic confirms the air strikes over Tripoli #Libya #Feb17 will explain more they say” via @ShababiLibya

8:15 AM Al Arabiya reports

  • The headquarters of al-Jamahiriya 2 TV and al-Shababia radio in Tripoli, the state controlled media, have been sacked, and several government buildings set on fire. State broadcasts were interrupted, but resumed this morning.
  • The Austrian Army announced that airspace over the Libyan capital Tripoli has been closed until further notice, and retracted later in the day.
  • A coalition of over 50 Libyan Islamic leaders, the Network of Free Ulema of Libya, has issued a fatwa telling all Muslims it is their duty to rebel against the Libyan leadership and demanding the release of all jailed protesters, Islamic scholar Sadiq al-Ghriani, who was arrested after criticizing the government, and “all imprisoned demonstrators, including many of our young students”. They have thereby demonstrated total infidelity to the guidance of God and his beloved Prophet. They said Gaddafi’s government “have demonstrated total arrogant impunity and continued, and even intensified, their bloody crimes against humanity. They have thereby demonstrated total infidelity to the guidance of God and his beloved Prophet (peace be upon him). This renders them undeserving of any obedience or support, and makes rebelling against them by all means possible a divinely ordained duty.”
  • Libya’s justice minister Mustapha Abdeljalil resigned in objection to “the excessive use of force” against demonstrators Quryna newspaper reported on Monday. The country’s ambassadors to the UK, Indian and Indonesia have also resigned to protest against the crackdown on protesters and the staff of Libyan U.N. mission has said they would now represent only the people of Libya.
  • The U.N. Security Council will meet Tuesday to discuss the crisis in Libya, U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said. He had spoken to Libyan leader Moammar Gaddafi “I urged him that the human rights and freedom of assembly and freedom of speech must be fully protected. I forcefully urged him to stop the violence against demonstrators and I again strongly underlined the importance of respecting human rights of those demonstrators. The aspirations and concerns of the people should be fully respected and heard by the authorities of the countries concerned.” Ban stressed the need to “ensure the protection of the civilian population under any circumstances.”

3:30 AM Guardian’s blog reports an interview with a man in Benghazi who told them more than 350 people have been killed, not including the discovery made inside the Birka Barracks by those who entered it following its surrender. “We found 150 corpses burning and we believe they were the bodies of officers and soldiers who refused to follow orders to fire on the the people.” We posted a video of this yesterday.

2:30 AM Al Jazeera’s live stream reports that Ban Ki Moon, the Secretary General of the United Nations has gone from being “deeply concerned” to “outraged” IF reports of Gaddafi firing on protesters from helicopters, etc. are true. There are indications that in a few hours we may have word that there may be discussion of a meeting.

2:30 AM Gaddafi appeared on Libyan TV with a giant umbrella and said “To prove I am not in Venezuela” and nothing else.

2011-02-21 Live blog for #Libya #Feb17 from February 15 – 28

MONDAY, February 21

10:15 PM Extremely graphic pictures from hospital – these are not regular bullets.

10:00 PM Petition to the UN: “Stop the Massacre – Save the Libyans”

8:15 PM From the audioboo account of Feb17voices:

  • We need help, we need support, we need medical aid, we need someone to stop this guy. It’s really bad out here, everyone’s getting killed, it’s getting worse and worse right now.Source
  • There are 5 or 6 fires all around Tripoli, people are getting shot wherever they are in the street, people go to the hospitals and are sent back because people are killing doctors and people in the hospitals, people are grabbing bits of metal from their yards, and kitchens, whatever they can find to protect their homes. Source
  • We had to change locations and we see 5 or 6 fires all around Tripoli, we see two cars filled with Africans … they were shooting doctors and people in the hospital.Source
  • Yesterday: The number of people injured and killed is about 900. As far the army division, from 5:00 up until 10 minutes ago, young people were throwing hand bombs at the army. … there are cars spread in the region and every car carries four people armed with handguns and they are going through the streets shooting young people, and they are still here. As for Tripoli, I have called Tripoli, and I was told there is an airplane coming to Benghazi filled with the African mercenaries … I passed by 1200 beds … the number of people injured or killed is totaling 900 and the majority of them are in critical condition because the few who are not hit by regular bullets are being hit by bullets usually used to bring down aircraft…. I hear the sound of bullets used to bring down airplanes again …. and young people are not willing to stop because they know if they stop that will be the end of the in Benghazi, they are still in the streets waiting in different places and also there is a shortage in blood supply, in particular O-negative. There is also another thing, the special forces they are attacking hospitals and executing the doctors there.. Source

8:00 PM WL Central has received a video said to be of the remains of soldiers burned alive for refusing to kill protesters.

7:40 PM Two senior colonels from Libya flew jets to Malta and landed without authorization because they were ordered to bomb protesters in Benghazi The colonels defected and made an emergency request to land. They were detained.

It is believed that they flew to Malta because it is only an hour away and on European soil. The speculation also is that they did not go to Italy, as they could have, because they would likely have been repatriated.

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This defection raises questions about the military. Correspondents on AJE talked about the role of the military saying that it is important but not as important as the military is in Egypt or Algeria. The defections show why Qadhafi is likely hiring mercenaries to stop protests.